2007 Honda Civic
Problems, recalls and owner-reported issues
Suspension is the leading concern among 1,204 owner complaints filed for this model year. This is the 2nd highest complaint count among 26 Civic model years with reports.
Of the 2007 reports, 48 involved a crash and 9 involved a fire. 71 people were injured and 10 people died.
What owners report most often
Recalls and investigations
Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleJun 27, 2019
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2014 Acura TSX, 2011-2014 TSX Sport Wagon, 2010-2013 ZDX, 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic and Civic Hybrid, 2008-2010 Civic GX NGV, 2012-2015 Crosstour, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2013 Fit, 2014 Fit EV, 2010-2014 Insight, and 2009-2015 Pilot vehicles. The vehicles are equipped with passenger frontal air bag inflators assembled as a recall remedy part or replacement service part, that may explode due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to high absolute humidity, temperature and temperature cycling.
An inflator explosion may result in sharp metal fragments striking the driver or other occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger frontal air bag inflator, free of charge. The recall began August 12, 2019. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are F5F and Q5E.
Campaign 19V502000 on NHTSA.gov
Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleMay 16, 2019
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2014 Acura TSX, 2011-2013 TSX Sport Wagon, and 2010-2012 ZDX and 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV, 2012-2014 Crosstour, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2013 Fit, 2010-2013 Insight, and 2009-2015 Pilot vehicles. The front passenger air bag inflator may have been installed incorrectly during replacement.
An incorrectly installed air bag inflator may not properly deploy the passenger frontal air bag in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the inflator installation and, if necessary, replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began July 5, 2019. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are M4O, P4R, T4Q, and W4P.
Campaign 19V378000 on NHTSA.gov
Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleApr 26, 2018
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2003-2012 Honda Accord and Pilot, 2010 Accord Crosstour, 2001-2011 Civic, 2002-2011 CR-V, 2003-2004, 2006-2008 and 2011 Element, 2007 and 2009-2013 Fit, 2010-2012 Insight, 2002-2004 Odyssey, and 2012 Ridgeline vehicles. The front passenger air bag may have been installed incorrectly during replacement.
An incorrectly installed air bag may deploy improperly in the event of a crash, increasing the risk of injury.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will inspect and, if necessary, replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began June 22, 2018. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are K1P, and M1O.
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Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleAug 31, 2017
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2008-2012 Accord, 2010-2012 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2009-2012 Fit and Pilot, 2010-2012 Insight, and 2009-2012 Acura TSX vehicles that received replacement passenger frontal air bag inflators. One dealership may have incorrectly installed the replacement air bag inflators.
In the event of a crash, an incorrectly installed passenger frontal air bag inflator may deploy the air bag improperly, increasing the risk of injury.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger frontal air bag module assembly, free of charge. The recall began October 30, 2017. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are O07, Y0A, N06, G05, M04, Y01, and O09.
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Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleJan 10, 2017
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain 2009-2012 Acura TSX, 2011-2012 Acura TSX Wagon, 2010-2012 Acura ZDX, 2008-2012 Honda Accord, 2010-2012 Honda Accord Crosstour and Honda Insight, 2009-2012 Honda Fit, 2009-2012 Pilot, 2007-2011 Honda CR-V, 2012 Honda FCX Clarity and 2006-2011 Honda Civic, Civic Hybrid, Civic NGV vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands, or "Zone A." Additionally, if not included in "Zone A" above, Honda is recalling certain 2009 Acura TSX, Honda Fit and Pilot, 2008-2009 Honda Accord, 2006-2009 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV, and 2007-2009 Honda CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia, or "Zone B." Additionally, if not included in "Zone B" above, Honda is recalling certain 2008 Honda Accord, 2006-2008 Honda Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic NGV and 2007-2008 Honda CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alaska, Colorado, Connecticut, Idaho, Iowa, Maine, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, New Hampshire, New York, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. These vehicles are equipped with certain air bag inflators assembled as part of the passenger frontal air bag modules used as original equipment or replacement equipment. In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of the front air bags, these inflators may rupture due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute humidity and temperature cycling.
An inflator rupture may result in metal fragments striking the vehicle occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the front passenger side air bag inflator, free of charge. The manufacturer has mailed an interim notification, and will send a second notification when parts are available. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall are KE1 and KE2.
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Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleMay 24, 2016
Honda (American Honda Motor Co.) is recalling certain model year 2009-2011 Acura TSX, 2011 TSX Wagon, 2010-2011 Acura ZDX, 2008-2011 Honda Accord, 2010-2011 Accord Crosstour, 2006-2011 Civic, Civic Hybrid, and Civic GX, 2007-2011 CR-V, 2010-2011 FCX Clarity and Insight, and 2009-2011 Fit, and Pilot vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Alabama, California, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, the Northern Mariana Islands (Saipan), and the U.S. Virgin Islands, or "Zone A." Additionally, unless already included in "Zone A" above, Honda is recalling certain model year 2008 Honda Accord, 2006-2008 Civic, Civic Hybrid and Civic GX, and 2007-2008 CR-V vehicles originally sold, or ever registered, in Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Virginia, and West Virginia, or "Zone B." Vehicles not originally sold or ever registered in either Zones A or B are not subject to this safety recall. These vehicles are equipped with certain air bag inflators assembled as part of the passenger frontal air bag modules, and used as original equipment or replacement equipment. In the event of a crash necessitating deployment of the front air bags, these inflators may rupture due to propellant degradation occurring after long-term exposure to absolute humidity and temperature cycling.
An inflator rupture may result in metal fragments striking the vehicle occupants resulting in serious injury or death.
Honda will notify owners, and dealers will replace the inflator, free of charge. The recall began March 2017. Owners may contact Honda customer service at 1-888-234-2138. Honda's numbers for this recall is KA4, KA5, KA6, and KA7.
Campaign 16V346000 on NHTSA.gov
Fuel system, other, storage, tank assemblyNov 1, 2007
ON CERTAIN COMPRESSED NATURAL GAS (CNG) VEHICLES, IN THE EVENT OF A SEVERE INTERIOR FIRE IN THE AREA OF THE REAR SEAT, THE CNG TANK MAY BE HEATED UNEVENLY, PREVENTING THE PRESSURE RELIEF DEVICE FROM VENTING THE CONTENTS OF THE TANK AS DESIGNED.
THIS COULD RESULT IN A TANK RUPTURE, EXPLOSION, AND EJECTION OF THE TANK FROM THE VEHICLE.
DEALERS WILL INSTALL A HEAT INSULATOR MATERIAL TO THE REAR SEAT BACK. AN INTERIM OWNER LETTER WAS MAILED TO OWNERS BEGINNING NOVEMBER 26, 2007. WHEN PARTS ARE AVAILABLE, OWNERS WILL BE RENOTIFIED ASKING THEM TO BRING IN THEIR VEHICLE FOR REPAIR. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Campaign 07V512000 on NHTSA.gov
Exterior lighting, brake lights, switchSep 5, 2007
ON CERTAIN SEDAN AND HYBRID (CNG) VEHICLES, DURING ASSEMBLY, THE TELESCOPIC STEERING COLUMN MECHANISM MAY HAVE BEEN OVER-LUBRICATED WITH SILICONE GREASE. OVER TIME, SOME OF THIS EXTRA GREASE MAY DRIP ON THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH CAUSING THE SWITCH TO FAIL.
FAILURE MAY RESULT IN A LOSS OF BRAKE LIGHTS AND AN INCREASED RISK THAT THE VEHICLE COULD BE STRUCK IN THE REAR. IN ADDITION, A FAILED BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH COULD PREVENT SHIFTING THE TRANSMISSION FROM THE PARK POSITION (VEHICLES WITH AN AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION).
DEALERS WILL REPLACE THE BRAKE LIGHT SWITCH AND INSTALL A PROTECTIVE COVER OVERTHE SWITCH FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON OCTOBER 2, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Campaign 07V402000 on NHTSA.gov
Service brakes, hydraulic, antilock/traction control/electronic limited slip, wheel speed sensor/tone ringSep 5, 2007
ON CERTAIN VEHICLES, THE WHEEL SPEED SENSOR HOUSING USES AN O-RING SEAL TO PREVENT LEAKAGE TO OR FROM THE WHEEL BEARING. IF ASSEMBLED IMPROPERLY, THE O-RING MAY NOT SEAL PROPERLY ALLOWING WATER TO ENTER THE WHEEL BEARING AND EVENTUALLY CAUSE DAMAGE TO THE BEARING, ESPECIALLY IN AREAS WHERE USE OF ROAD SALT IS PREVALENT. IF THE DRIVER CONTINUES TO DRIVE WITH THIS CONDITION IT IS POSSIBLE FOR THE WHEEL BEARING TO BECOME LOOSE, WHICH COULD CAUSE THE BEARING TO FAIL.
THIS COULD CAUSE A WHEEL TO FALL OFF OF THE VEHICLE, POSSIBLY RESULTING IN A CRASH.
DEALERS WILL INSPECT THE REAR ABS SENSORS AND WHEEL BEARINGS FOR DAMAGED PARTS AND REPLACE THEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE RECALL BEGAN ON SEPTEMBER 25, 2007. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Campaign 07V399000 on NHTSA.gov
Representative owner complaints: engine
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Engine and engine cooling, Visibility, Sep 12, 2010
3 MONTHS AFTER BUYING VEHICLE NOTICED AC RUNNING WARM. FIRST TOLD BY HONDA CARLAND CARTERSVILLE THAT NOTHING WAS WRONG. TOOK IT BACK TO HONDA CARLAND ROSWELL THAT FREON WAS LOW AND COOLANT BUT NO LEAK. HAVE HAD CONTINUOUS PROBLEMS WITH AC RUNNING HOT. YESTERDAY WENT TO GROCERY STORE AND WHEN I WALKED BACKED TO CAR NOTICED SOMETHING LEAKING UNDERNEATH. TRIED TO GET IT TO CAR REPAIR PLACE BUT CAR IMMEDIATELY RAN HOT. TOWED IT AND THEY CALLED SAYING THAT THE ENGINE BLOCK HAS A CRACK. NOTICING MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS FOR 06-07 HONDA CIVIC ENGINE BLOCK CRACKS WITH INITIAL PROBLEMS SHOWING IN AC AND COOLANT. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Electrical system, Aug 27, 2010
OWN A 2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID. AFTER ABOUT ONE YEAR OF OWNERSHIP, THE CAR STARTED EXHIBITING TROUBLING CHARACTERISTICS WITH THE POWER MANAGEMENT AND AVAILABLE POWER. THE CAR RELIES ON A GAS ENGINE AND ELECTRIC ASSIST TO PROVIDE FULL POWER IN ALL DRIVING SITUATIONS. DURING THE SUMMER WHEN TEPERATURES RISE, THE CAR STARTS TO HAVE DIFFICULTY PROVIDING POWER FROM THE ELECTRIC MOTOR DUE TO THE BATTERY CRASHING TO 0. ONCE THE BATTERY "RECALIBRATES" THE CAR PROVIDES VERY LITTLE POWER USING ONLY THE GAS ENGINE. THIS BATTERY CRASH HAPPENS ON A DAILY BASIS AND MEANS IN THE REAL WORLD THAT WHEN I AM PULLING OUT INTO TRAFFIC I MAY HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER TO GET THE CAR UP TO SPEED AND RISK GETTING HIT BY ONCOMING TRAFFIC. TO SAY THE CAR BECOMES "SLUGGISH" IS AN OVERSTATEMENT. HONDA HAS BEEN UNWILLING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE AND IT APPEARS THAT THE AR HAS A MATERIAL DEFECT THAT PREVENTS THE BATTERIES FROM OPERATING AS INTENDED IN REAL WORLD SITUATIONS. WHEN THE AIR CONDITIONER IS IN OPERATION THE BATTERY WILL CRASH EACH TIME YOU DRIVE THE CAR. I FEEL VERY UNSAFE IN THIS VEHICLE AND HONDA IS DOING NOTHING TO ADDRESS THE COMPLAINTS. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Aug 24, 2010
2007 CIVIC HYBRID - NOW WITH DETERIORATING BATTERY, IT OCCASIONALLY HAS VERY POOR ACCELERATION AND HAS LEADED TO NEAR MISS ACCIDENTS TWICE. CAR WAS FINE UNTIL THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH DETERIORATING BATTERY. HONDA WON'T REPLACE. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Aug 21, 2010
MY 2007 HONDA CIVIC EX. FIRST STARTED HAVING PROBLEMS AT AROUND 50,000 MILES WHEN THE CAR WAS HESITANT TO ACCELERATE, AND THE CAR OVERHEATED ONCE. I TOOK INTO THE HONDA DEALERSHIP, VERY INFORMAL, THEY GAVE ME NO PAPERWORK OR PROOF THAT THEY LOOKED AT MY VEHICLE, THEY CLAIMED THAT NOTHING WAS WRONG WITH MY VEHICLE AND THAT IT MAY HAVE BEEN PLACE UNDER UNUSUALLY HARSH CONDITIONS OR THE EXTREME OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE OF 92 DEGREES FAHRENHEIT COULD HAVE CAUSED THE OVERHEATING. THE HONDA CERTIFIED MECHANIC DID NOT OBSERVED THE VEHICLE TO BE OVERHEATING, AND COULD NOT REPLICATE ANY ISSUES ON THE VEHICLE. THINKING THAT THEY MADE A FULL DIAGNOSIS I CONTINUED TO DRIVE MY VEHICLE. A FEW MONTHS LATER THE CAR STARTED TO SMELL LIKE SOMETHING WAS BURNING AND THE CAR WAS VERY HESITANT TO MOVE, I PLACED THE VEHICLE ON PARK AND LOOKED UNDER THE HOOD, SMOKE WAS COMING OUT AND I LOOKED UNDER THE CAR AND WHAT LOOKED LIKE ANTIFREEZE WAS DRIPPING UNDER THE CAR. I IMMEDIATELY HAD THE CAR TOWED TO THE DEALERSHIP AND ASKED TO MAKE ANOTHER DIAGNOSIS, THIS TIME THEY CAME BACK AND SAID THAT MY VEHICLE HAD A CRACK ON THE ENGINE BLOCK. THE HONDA DEALERSHIP SAID THAT SINCE THE CAR IS OVER THE DESIGNATED WARRANTY MILES TO BE COVERED BY THE MANUFACTURER THAT I WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUT OF POCKET, ABOUT 5,000 DOLLARS. DEALERSHIP TOLD ME THAT THE ENGINE BLOCK CRACKING IS A COMMON ISSUE ON THIS VEHICLE AND THAT IT COULD BE A MANUFACTURER DEFECT, BUT THE DEALERSHIP COULD NOT FIX IT BECAUSE THE MANUFACTURER IS NOT COVERING THE VEHICLE DUE TO THE FACT THAT ITS OVER THE MANUFACTURER'S WARRANTY. I PROTESTED CLAIMING THAT I TOOK IN INTO THE HONDA SERVICE SHOP A FEW MONTH EARLIER, HAD THEY EXAMINED THE VEHICLE PROPERLY THEN IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DETECTED UNDER WARRANTY, EITHER WAY THE VEHICLE SHOULD NOT HAVE A CRACKED ENGINE BLOCK AT 50,000 MILES. CAR IS NOW SITTING IN MY GARAGE, SINCE I DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE REPAIR AND THE CAR CAN'T BE DRIVEN. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Equipment, Aug 18, 2010
MY 2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID IS EXPERIENCING AN ISSUE WHERE THE HYBRID BATTERY LOSES CHARGE OVERNIGHT, CAUSING THE CAR TO ACCELERATE UNPREDICTABLY WHILE DRIVING. IN SOME CASES, THE DISPLAY SHOWS THAT THE HYBRID BATTERY HAS ENOUGH CHARGE TO ASSIST IN ACCELERATION, BUT THE CAR REACTS EXTREMELY SLOW WHEN ACCELERATING FROM A STOP. YESTERDAY WHEN SHIFTING FROM A LANE OF STOPPED TRAFFIC TO A LANE OF MOVING TRAFFIC, THE CAR ATTEMPTED TO USE BATTERY TO ASSIST IN ACCELERATION, BUT WAS UNABLE TO DO SO BECAUSE THE BATTERY WAS DEAD. WHEN I ENTERED THE LANE, THE NEXT CAR BEHIND ME WAS 30-40 YARDS BACK, BUT I DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT ACCELERATION TO MATCH THE SPEED IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. THANKFULLY THE DRIVER BEHIND ME WAS PAYING ATTENTION AND ABLE TO SLOW DOWN TO AVOID A COLLISION. DUE TO THE EXTREME LACK OF ACCELERATION FROM A STOP IN THESE SITUATIONS, AND THE UNPREDICTABILITY AS TO WHEN IT WILL OCCUR, THIS TO ME IS A MAJOR SAFETY CONCERN EVERY TIME I DRIVE MY CAR NOW. I TOOK THE CAR TO A HONDA DEALER, AND THEY APPLIED THE LATEST SOFTWARE UPDATE. AFTER THE UPDATE, I HAD THEM TEST-DRIVE THE CAR, BUT THEY WERE UNWILLING OR UNABLE TO DO ANYTHING ELSE TO FIX THE ISSUE. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Equipment, Aug 3, 2010
2007 HONDA CIVIC EX FAULTY AC CONDENSER. STOPPED WORKING ABRUPTLY. DEALER TOLD ME BEFORE LOOKING AT IT THAT IT WAS A ROCK THAT HAD PUT A HOLE IN IT. INDICATED THEY HAD SEEN NUMEROUS CONDENSERS ON 2007 HONDA MODELS THAT THIS HAD HAPPENED. THEY WOULD NOT REPLACE IT, EVEN WITH IT UNDER WARRANTY SINCE THEY DETERMINED IT TO BE A ROCK THAT CAUSED THIS SMALL HOLE. I FOLLOWED UP ON INTERNET AND SAW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN HUNDREDS OF OTHER HONDA OWNERS WITH THIS SAME PROBLEM AND HONDA REFUSES TO DO ANYTHING TO HELP. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A DEFECTIVE MAKE IN THIS VEHICLE. HONDA DOES NOT WANT TO ASSUME ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR THIS PROBLEM THAT SHOULD BE COVERED UNDER WARRANTY. A CAR 3 YEARS OLD SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS HAPPENING TO IT. I HAVE MAINTAINED THIS CAR WITH ALL SERVICE AGREEMENTS AND MAINTENANCE RECORDS. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Visibility, Jul 28, 2010
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA CIVIC. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE SUN VISORS WERE WARPED AND WOULD CONTINUOUSLY SWING DOWN AND FLAP BACK AND FORTH, OBSTRUCTING THE DRIVER'S VIEW OF THE ROADWAY. THE ENGINE WOULD ALSO OVERHEAT FREQUENTLY AND THE ENGINE BLOCK WAS CRACKED. IN ADDITION, THE TEMPERATURE GAUGES WOULD NOT PROPERLY MONITOR THE ENGINE TEMPERATURE. THE ENGINE RPMS WOULD OFTEN EXHIBIT AND ABNORMAL INCREASE. ON ONE OCCASION WHILE EXITING THE HIGHWAY ON AN INCLINE, THE VEHICLE STALLED AND BEGAN TO ROLL BACKWARD ON THE RAMP. THE CONTACT BARELY MISSED CRASHING INTO A TRACTOR TRAILER. THE MANUFACTURER ADVISED TAKING THE VEHICLE TO A DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTICS TESTING. THE MANUFACTURER ALSO STATED THEY WOULD COVER NINETY PERCENT OF THE ENGINE BLOCK REPAIRS. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS AWAITING REPAIRS. THE VEHICLE HAD BEEN IN THE POSSESSION OF THE DEALER FOR OVER ONE MONTH. THE CURRENT AND FAILURE MILEAGES WERE APPROXIMATELY 74,900.
Engine and engine cooling, Jul 19, 2010
I DRIVE A 2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID. THE CAR IS BARELY 3 YEARS OLD WITH LESS THAN 36,000 MILES. IN JUNE WHILE STARTING FROM A DEAD STOP ON A HILL AND DRIVING IN GENTLY ROLLING HILLS THE INTEGRATED MOTOR ASSIST WOULD OFTEN FAIL TO ENGAGE TO PROVIDE THE EXTRA POWER NEEDED TO CLIMB THE HILL. THE ENGINE REVVED TO 3000 - 3500 RPM BUT HAD NO POWER. WHEN STARTING FROM THE DEAD STOP THE CAR COULD NOT HOLD IT'S POSITION ON THE HILL. THE DEALER COULD NOT FIGURE OUT THE CAUSE BUT THEY APPLIED TWO SOFTWARE UPDATES TO THE COMPUTER THAT MIGHT HELP. THEY ALSO CONTACTED THE HONDA TECHLINE. HONDA TOLD MY DEALER THAT GIVEN THE AGE OF THE BATTERY (3 YEARS) AND WHEN THE TEMPERATURE REACHES 100 DEGREES (THERE WAS A COINCIDENTAL HEAT WAVE IN THE EAST) THIS WAS NORMAL OPERATION. ON THE SPECIFIC DAY THIS PROBLEM STARTED TEMPERATURES WERE IN THE EIGHTIES. THE DEALER SPENT TWO WEEKS TRYING TO DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM AND A THIRD WEEK ARGUING WITH HONDA THAT THE CAR DID NOT RUN RIGHT. AT THIS POINT I CONTACTED HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AND THEY OPENED AN 'INVESTIGATION'. THEY TOOK MY STATEMENT AND CONTACTED THE DEALER. THEIR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE CAR IS OPERATING PERFECTLY NORMALLY. THIS TIME THEY SAID THAT GIVEN THE AGE OF THE BATTERY, IF YOU USE THE IMA TOO MUCH THE IMA BATTERY MAY OVERHEAT AND SHUT DOWN. THAT IS HONDA'S OFFICIAL POSITION AND THEY REFUSE TO TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY TO CORRECT THE PROBLEM. THE SAFETY CONCERNS OF THIS PROBLEM ARE OBVIOUS. FORTUNATELY TRAFFIC WAS LIGHT AND THERE WERE NO ACCIDENTS. MY WIFE DRIVES A 2003 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID WITH OVER 100,000 MILES AND HAS NEVER ENCOUNTERED THIS PROBLEM. THERE WAS A TOTAL REDESIGN OF THE CIVIC IN 2006. PERHAPS THE HONDA ENGINEERS OUTSMARTED THEMSELVES AND INTRODUCED A DESIGN FLAW. OR, PERHAPS THERE IS A DEFECTIVE BATTERY THAT HONDA DOES NOT WANT TO PAY TO REPLACE. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Jul 7, 2010
2007 HONDA CIVIC EX 4DR - THE ENGINE LEAKED COOLANT WITH NO WARNING. HAD IT TOWED TO HONDA DEALER AND THEY SAY THE ENGINE BLOCK IS CRACKED AT THE COOLANT PASSAGES. HONDA DEALER SAYS THEY HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE PAST (TSB #SB-08-044). I AM BEING TOLD BY THE DEALER THAT I NEED A NEW ENGINE BLOCK (APPROX $5,000.00). THE CAR HAS 99,600 MILES ON IT AND I HAVE BEEN THE ONLY OWNER. ALL MAINTENANCE / SERVICE HAS BEEN PROVIDED BY THE HONDA DEALER FOR CARS LIFE. AS OF RIGHT NOW, HONDA SAYS IT WILL PAY 50% (APPROX. $2,500.00). *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Jun 28, 2010
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA CIVIC. WHILE TRAVELING AT 50 MPH DURING RAINY WEATHER, THE VEHICLE BEGAN TO LOSE POWER AND STALL. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER WHERE THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE FAILURE COULD NOT BE DUPLICATED. THE CONTACT STATED THE FAILURE WOULD OCCUR INTERMITTENTLY. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 7,000 AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 43,000.
Engine and engine cooling, Jun 24, 2010
I CURRENTLY OWN A 2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID. THE HONDA CIVIC HYBRID RELIES ON THE HYBRID BATTERIES (IMA BATTERIES) TO POWER THE VEHICLE DURING ACCELERATIONS AND ON A NORMAL BASIS THE BATTERIES ARE RECHARGED DURING VEHICLE DECELERATIONS. THE ISSUE I AM HAVING HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR OVER A YEAR WITH NO SUPPORT TO FIX THE ISSUE FROM HONDA. THE CHARGE IN MY IMA BATTERIES IS ALWAYS 0-2 BARS (I HAVE PHOTOS SHOWING THIS) WHICH CAUSES THE VEHICLE TO HAVE VERY LIMITED ACCELERATION. ADD THE A/C BEING ON NOW IN THE SUMMER AND THE CAR IS BASICALLY USELESS. ALSO, WHEN THE SYSTEM (VEHICLE COMPUTER) SEES THAT THE IMA BATTERIES ARE LOW OR EMPTY IT FORCES THE ENGINE TO RECHARGE THE BATTERIES WHEN THE VEHICLE IS STOPPED ,WHICH IS NOT A 'NORMAL' OPERATION. WHEN THE SYSTEM GOES INTO A 'FORCED' RECHARGE IT COMMANDS THE ENGINE TO GO TO A HIGHER RPM TO CHARGE THE BATTERIES WHEN YOU ARE STOPPED THIS IN TURN CAUSES THE VEHICLE TO JUMP OR LURCH FORWARD WHEN YOU RELEASE THE BRAKE PEDAL. THIS ALSO CONCERNS ME SINCE YOU NEED TO ENSURE YOU LEAVE ENOUGH SPACE BETWEEN YOU AND THE CAR IN FRONT OF YOU AND ESPECIALLY LEAVE SPACE IF YOU ARE BEHIND A PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK. I HAVE CONTACT ALL THE HONDA DEALERS IN THE EAST VALLEY AND THEY TELL ME THE SAME STORY. THE ALL AGREE THAT BATTERIES SHOULD NEVER BE AT ZERO AND THE CAR SHOULD NOT JUMP/LURCH FORWARD, BUT UNLESS THE IMA LIGHT GOES ON IN THE DASHBOARD (P07AF BATTERY DETERIORATION CODE FOR HONDA) THERE IS NOTHING WRONG AND THERE IS ANYTHING THEY CAN DO. IN SUMMARY, DUE TO THE EXCESSIVE HEAT WE HAVE IN ARIZONA THE IMA BATTERIES IN THE HONDA CIVIC HYBRID TO FAIL CAUSING LIMITED/LOW ACCELERATION AND THE VEHICLE TO JUMP FORWARDS DURING A STOP. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Jun 15, 2010
I WAS DRIVING LOCALLY YESTERDAY, AND MY CAR OVERHEATED. I PULLED OVER AND LET THE ENGINE COOL DOWN, THEN CHECKED THE COOLANT IN THE RADIATOR. IT WAS EMPTY, AS WAS THE RESERVE TANK. AFTER LETTING THE CAR COMPLETELY COOL, I DROVE IT TO THE LOCAL GAS STATION AND PURCHASED SOME ENGINE COOLANT. I FILLED UP THE RADIATOR AND THE RESERVE TANK, AND DROVE HOME. I HAD AN APPOINTMENT AT A DEALER FOR TODAY ALREADY, SO I BROUGHT THIS UP TO THEM. THEY SAID IT WAS A CRACKED ENGINE BLOCK. THIS CAR IS A 2007 HONDA CIVIC LX, WITH ~65K MILES ON IT. IT'S NOT EVEN 4 YEARS OLD YET. I'M WAITING ON THE DEALER TO FIND OUT HOW MUCH THIS WILL COST ME. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Jun 15, 2010
ENGINE FAILURE IN 2007 HONDA CIVIC LX WITH NO WARNING LIGHTS. ENGINE SEIZED AND HAD TO BE REPLACED. DANGEROUS SITUATION AS CAR GIVES NO WARNING OF PROBLEM AND JUST STALLS. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, May 13, 2010
HONDA CIVIC 2007 ENGINE COMPLETELY FAILED. SUSPECT THIS RELATED TO TSB 08-044; TOOK TO RODRIGOS AUTO REPAIR SHOP; ENGINE CRACKED. AMERICAN HONDA REFUSES REIMBURSEMENT SINCE DID NOT TAKE IT TO A HONDA DEALER. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Apr 8, 2010
MY HONDA CIVIC 2007 GOT OVERHEATED AFTER DRIVING ABOUT 7 MINUTES FROM HOME ON MY WAY TO WORK EARLY MORNING. NEVER SEEN ANY VISIBLE LEAKS ON THE DRIVEWAY. THE MAINTENANCE ON THE CAR IS ALWAYS UP TO DATE AND MOST OF THE TIME IS DONE BY THE DEALER WHERE I BOUGHT THE CAR FROM. AFTER I BROUGHT THE CAR TO THE DEALER TO BE DIAGNOSED, THE DEALER TOLD ME THAT THE CAR HAS POROUS LEAK ON THE ENGINE BLOCK CAUSED BY A DEFECT WHEN THE CASTING OF THE ENGINE TOOK PLACE AT HONDA'S MANUFACTURING PLANT. THIS POROUS LEAK CAUSED THE ENGINE BLOCK TO CRACK AND LOSE COOLANT AND EVENTUALLY OVERHEAT THE CAR. THE DEALER RECOMMENDED ME TO REPLACE THE WHOLE ENGINE. THE DEALER EVEN FAXED ME THE SERVICE BULLETIN FROM HONDA REGARDING THIS PARTICULAR PROBLEM. THE CAR CURRENTLY HAS ABOUT 90,000 MILES ON IT. SINCE THE CAR HAS PASSED THE WARRANTY PERIOD OF 60,000 MILES OR 3 YEARS WHICHEVER COMES FIRST, THE DEALER WOULD NOT COVER THE REPAIR AND ADVISED ME TO CALL AMERICAN HONDA. AFTER CALLING AMERICAN HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE CENTER AND TELLING THEM ABOUT THE PROBLEM, THEY REFUSED TO REPLACE THE ENGINE AND INSISTED THAT IT WAS NOT CAUSED BY A DEFECTIVE ENGINE INSTEAD IT WAS TOTALLY MY FAULT FOR LETTING THE CAR OVERHEATED. I TRIED TO CALL HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE ABOUT THREE TIMES WITH NO RESULTS WHATSOEVER. THEY KEPT SAYING THAT THERE IS NOTHING THEY CAN DO DUE TO HIGH MILEAGE THAT THE CAR HAS. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Apr 5, 2010
ENGINE BLOCK CRACKS UNEXPECTEDLY. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Mar 31, 2010
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2007 HONDA CIVIC. THE CONTACT OBSERVED WHILE DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 5 MPH, THE TEMPERATURE GAUGE READING WAS OVER THE HALF WAY POINT. THE CONTACT PULLED OVER TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AND INSPECTED THE VEHICLE. THE ENGINE WAS TURNED OFF. THERE WAS A COOLANT LEAK AND STEAM UNDERNEATH THE HOOD OF THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC TESTING. THE FAILURE WAS CONTRIBUTED TO A CRACKED ENGINE BLOCK. THE VEHICLE HAD NOT BEEN REPAIRED AT THIS TIME. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGES WERE 62,409.
Engine and engine cooling, Mar 11, 2010
IN NOVEMBER 2009, I PURCHASED A USED 2007 HONDA CIVIC FROM A USED DEALERSHIP IN ALPHARETTA, GA. IT WAS PURCHASED AS IS SO I IMMEDIATELY TOOK IT TO VOYLES HONDA IN MARIETTA, GA FOR A TOTAL CHECK-UP. THE CAR WAS SERVICED AND GIVEN THE GREEN LIGHT. IT HAD 74,960 MILES ON IT AT THE TIME. ON MARCH 8, 2010, ON MY WAY BACK HOME FROM JACKSONVILLE, FL THE CAR STARTED TO DECELERATE QUICKLY. I WAS ON I95 NORTHBOUND WITH MY SON, AND IT WAS A VERY SCARY FEW MOMENTS FOR US. WE MANAGED TO PARK THE CAR ON THE EMERGENCY LANE. THE CAR WOULD NOT COME BACK ON. WHEN WE LOOKED UNDER THE HOOD, THERE WAS NO SMOKE BUT THERE WAS A FUNNY SMELL. MY SON TOOK THE DIPSTICK OUT OF THE ENGINE AND IT WAS MELTED! WE HAD TO HAVE THE CAR TOWED TO YULEE TO A LOCAL MECHANIC WHO SAID THE ENGINE WAS GONE. AFTER STAYING IN A LOCAL HOTEL FOR THE NIGHT, MY HUSBAND PICKED US UP ON MARCH 9. WHEN I GOT HOME I MADE ARRANGEMENTS TO HAVE THE CAR TOWED TO GRAINGER HONDA IN SAVANNAH. GRAINGER GETS THE CAR IN AND AFTER A $92.00 CHARGE FOR LOOKING AT IT, TELLS ME THAT THE ENGINE IS GONE AND THEY CAN GET ME A GREAT DEAL FOR $4,600.00 (A USED ENGINE WITH 19,000 MILES ON IT). WELL IN THE MEAN TIME, MY SON HAD BEEN RESEARCHING THIS PROBLEM ON LINE AND FOUND THAT THERE ARE MANY 2006-2007 HONDA CIVIC OWNERS HAVING THE SAME PROBLEM. HE FOUND HONDA SERVICE BULLETIN 08-044 WHICH STATES THERE IS A MECHANICAL DEFECT IN SOME OF THESE ENGINES. THE BULLETIN ALSO STATES THAT CUSTOMERS THAT ARE OUT OF WARRANTY WHEN THIS HAPPENS MAY BE ELIGIBLE FOR GOODWILL CONSIDERATION. I EXPLAINED SEVERAL EMPLOYEES OF GRAINGER HONDA BUT THEIR RESPONSE WAS THAT THEY WOULD NEED TO 'TAKE DOWN' THE ENGINE AT A TUNE OF ABOUT $500-$600. HE SAID THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO PICK UP 25% OF THE COST. I TOLD HIM ABSOLUTELY NOT. I TOLD HIM THIS WAS A DEFECT THAT HONDA WAS VERY MUCH AWARE OF AND THAT HONDA SHOULD PAY FOR THE ENTIRE REPAIR. I ALSO CONTACTED HONDA OF AMERICA AND WAS TOLD THEY WOULD DO NOTHING. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Mar 1, 2010
2007 HONDA CIVIC WITH CRACKED ENGINE BLOCK AND COOLANT WAS LEAKING FROM THE VEHICLE. *KB THE CONSUMER WAS INFORMED THERE WAS A CASTING DEFECT IN THE ENGINE BLOCK AND A TSB HAD BEEN ISSUED. *JB
Engine and engine cooling, Feb 17, 2010
IT COULD BE SERIOUS ACCIDENT ON THE HIGHWAY, AND I COULD BE DEAD, TOO. BUT HONDA DOESN'T GIVE ME A GOOD RESPONSE FOR THIS CASE. I PURCHASED THIS CAR 35 MONTHS AGO, AND THE CURRENT MILEAGE IS 68,000 MILES. I HAVE HAD THIS CAR SERVICED SINCE PURCHASE BY HONDA OF DECATUR AS RECOMMENDED BY THE OWNER'S MANUAL. I HAD THE CAR SERVICED THE FIRST WEEK OF FEBRUARY WITH A TYPE B SERVICE. THE DEALER PERSONNEL DIDN'T MENTION ANY MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THE DRIVE TRAIN AFTER THIS SERVICE. ON FEBRUARY 9, 2010 I NOTICE AN UNUSUAL SWEET SMELL AS I DROVE MY CAR TO THE AIRPORT. BECAUSE I WAS TRAVELING ON BUSINESS, I HAD TO LEAVE THE CAR AND PICK IT UP ON FEBRUARY 11TH. SHORTLY AFTER RETURNING ON FEBRUARY 11, 2010 THE TEMPERATURE GAUGE SHOWED THE ENGINE WAS OVERHEATING AND SOME SMOKE CAME OUT. I IMMEDIATELY PULLED OVER AND TURNED THE CAR OFF. I HAD THE CAR TOWED TO THE HONDA DEALER IN HUNTSVILLE, AL WHICH WAS THE NEAREST DEALERSHIP. AFTER THE CAR WAS EXAMINED I WAS TOLD BY THE DEALER'S SERVICE ADVISOR THAT THERE IS A CRACK IN ENGINE BLOCK. AT THIS TIME THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY A CAUSE FOR THIS CRACK. AS I EXPLAINED ABOVE THE CAR WAS RECENTLY SERVICED AND THE ANTI-FREEZE SHOULD HAVE PREVENTED FREEZE DAMAGE. THE DEALER HAS ESTIMATED THE REPAIR WILL COST $3,500-$3,700 AND BECAUSE OF THE MILEAGE THEY INDICATE THAT HONDA OF HUNTSVILLE WILL NOT ABLE TO SUBMIT A WARRANTY CLAIM ON MY BEHALF. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Feb 4, 2010
WHILE DRIVING MY 2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID, I WAS STOPPED IN TRAFFIC ON A BUSY STREET. I WAS WAITING TO MAKE A LEFT TURN INTO A BUSINESS. WHEN I WENT TO TURN, THE CAR WAS VERY SLUGGISH AND HAD WHAT APPEARED TO BE SIGNIFICANTLY LESS ACCELERATION THAN NORMAL. THIS WAS CAUSED BY THE CAR'S COMPUTER RECALIBRATING THE BATTERY. THIS RECALIBRATING STARTED HAPPENING AFTER A SOFTWARE UPDATE. IT HAPPENS EVERY FEW DAYS AND THERE IS NO WARNING. WHEN IT HAPPENS THE COMPUTER ARTIFICIALLY LOWER THE CHARGE STATE FORCING THE CAR TO GO INTO REGENERATION STATE TO FULLY CHARGE THE BATTERS. EVEN THOUGH THE BATTER IS NOT REALLY EMPTY, SINCE THE COMPUTER SET THE BATTERY LEVEL TO BE EMPTY, THE ELECTRIC MOTOR IS NO LONGER USED. THERE SHOULD BE A WARNING TONE OR SOMETHING TO INDICATE THAT THERE WILL BE A SIGNIFICANT LOSS OF POWER. I BELIEVE THAT HONDA DID THIS SOFTWARE UPDATE TO MAKE THE BATTERIES SEEM TO LAST LONGER, BUT IT'S REALLY LESS SAFE! IT'S ALSO CAUSED MY MILEAGE TO GO DOWN BY ABOUT 10% BUT I REALIZE THAT IS NOT A SAFETY ISSUE. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Feb 3, 2010
2007 HONDA CIVIC EX SEDAN: UPON A TRIP (60 MILES) HOME FROM THE CLEVELAND AIRPORT 1-26-10, I SMELLED COOLANT BURNING AND A SUDDEN CLOUD OF STEAM FROM UNDER THE HOOD. UPON FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THIS INCIDENT, THE DETERMINED CAUSE WAS THE ENGINE BLOCK HAD CRACKED ALLOWING COOLANT TO BE SPRAYED ONTO THE MANIFOLD CAUSING THE BURNING SMELL AND CLOUDS OF STEAM. WHILE HONDA CANNOT PROVIDE A REASONING BEHIND THIS FAILURE, IT APPEARS OR WOULD SEEM TO BE A CASTING ISSUE FOR THE 2006-07 MODELS. THE CAR IS OUT OF WARRANTY BY 35K MILES AT THE TIME OF FAILURE AND HONDA DECLINED ALL EFFORTS TO ASSIST WITH THIS PROBLEM. I AM HEARING AND SEEING NUMEROUS ISSUES EXACTLY IDENTICAL TO MINE WELL WITHIN THE WARRANTY PERIOD FOR OTHERS AND HONDA IS CLAIMING THERE IS "NO" PROBLEM WITH THESE ENGINES. THE CAR HAS BEEN DEALER MAINTAINED AND HAS ALL HIGHWAY MILES DUE TO MY JOB. NOT SURE HOW MANY COMPLAINTS IT TAKES TO ISSUE A RECALL BUT THERE IS DEFINITELY A PROBLEM WITH THE 2007 CIVIC ENGINE CASTINGS. THIS OVERHEATING COULD ULTIMATELY LEAD TO A FIRE OR SERIOUS INJURY SHOULD A DRIVER NOT UNDERSTAND THE INDICANT AT HAND. I DO KNOW THERE IS A TSB REGARDING THIS PROBLEM #08-044. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Nov 13, 2009
AT 59,361 MILES THE CAR STARTED LEAKING COOLANT WHILE I WAS ON A TRIP TO CALIFORNIA. TOOK IT TO THE DEALER. IT HAD A CRACKED BLOCK. HONDA REPLACED THE SHORT BLOCK AND RESURFACED THE HEAD UNDER WARRANTY. NO LOANER CAR OR OFFER TO SUPPLY RENTAL. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Oct 2, 2009
ON THURS. OCT. 1 I DROVE TO WORK IN MY '07' HONDA CIVIC EX 4-DR WITH 48,900 MILES(APPROX) AND I STARTED HEARING A NOISE. THE CAR KEPT RUNNING PRETTY WELL THOUGH SO I CONTINUED THE 22 MILES TO MY OFFICE. WHEN I GOT THERE I WAS SMELLING BURNING RUBBER AND IT WAS MAKING QUITE A RACKET. I CALLED ROUSH HONDA IN WESTERVILLE, OHIO AND BROUGHT IT IN THAT AFTERNOON. I HAD TO RUN ON BACK ROADS INSTEAD OF THE FREEWAY BECAUSE I WAS AFRAID THAT IT WOULDN'T MAKE IT - I PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE HAD IT TOWED. THEY TOLD ME THAT THE WATER PUMP PULLEY BROKE, RUINED THE WATER PUMP, TENSIONER AND BELT ETC. I HAVE A DRIVE TRAIN WARRANTY THROUGH 100,000 MILES BUT NOT A PART OF THE DRIVE TRAIN! I HAD AN OVERALL WARRANTY BUT I AM ABOUT 900 TO 1,000 MILES PAST. IT WILL COST $500.00 PLUS TO FIX. I GOT ON THE INTERNET AND THEN ON YOUR SITE AND I FIND A TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN # 08=039 (NHTSA # 10026791) ON BOLTS COMING LOOSE ON WATER PUMP PULLEYS AND DOING DAMAGE. I EVEN ASKED THE ROUSH SERVICE MAN WHEN HE CALLED TO TELL ME WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS IF THESE DO THIS A LOT. HE SAID THAT THIS IS THE FIRST ONE THAT HE HAD EVER HEARD OF. DO YOU BELIEVE HIM? I SURE DON'T! WHAT CAN I DO? I AM GETTING SICK AND TIRED OF AUTO MAKERS BUILDING JUNK AND THEN NOT STANDING BEHIND IT. I BOUGHT CHRYSLERS FOR 30 YEARS AND GOT SICK OF THEIR GAMES AND SWITCHED TO HONDA TO GET AWAY FROM IT BUT IT LOOKS LIKE THEY PLAY THEM TOO. NOW ADMITTEDLY, NO INJURY OR PHYSICAL DAMAGE WAS CAUSED, BUT I AM SURE GLAD THAT THE PUMP DIDN'T FAIL COMPLETELY ON THE FREEWAY WHEN I WAS DRIVING TO WORK. *TR
Engine and engine cooling, Aug 15, 2009
2007 HONDA CIVIC HYBRID ENGINE/HYBRID SYSTEM OPERATION HAS BECOME ERRATIC AND UNPREDICTABLE. ADEQUATE POWER TO ACCELERATE, MERGE AND SAFELY OPERATE VEHICLE CAN SUDDENLY CUT OUT, LEAVING VEHICLE WITH UNACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE AND CREATING SAFETY HAZARD IN NORMAL DRIVING CONDITIONS. *TR