2008 Honda Odyssey
Problems, recalls and owner-reported issues
Service brakes is the leading concern among 499 owner complaints filed for this model year. This is the 11th highest complaint count among 26 Odyssey model years with reports.
Of the 2008 reports, 37 involved a crash and 8 involved a fire. 44 people were injured.
What owners report most often
Recalls and investigations
Fuel system, gasoline, delivery, fuel pumpJul 28, 2014
Delphi Automotive Systems, LLC (Delphi) is recalling certain replacement fuel pump modules, part number FG1155-11B1, sold for use in 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey vehicles. The affected fuel pump may send an incorrect fuel reading to the fuel gauge possibly causing the vehicle to run out of fuel. The fuel gauge will always read 3/4 full to full regardless of the actual level.
A vehicle that runs out of fuel and stalls has an increased risk of a crash.
Delphi has begun notifying dealers and distributors, and will replace the fuel pump modules, free of charge. Owners may contact Delphi customer service at 1-877-411-8770. Delphi's number for this recall is GL14-004.
Campaign 14E049000 on NHTSA.gov
Fuel system, gasoline, delivery, fuel pumpMar 14, 2014
American Honda Motor Co., Inc. (Honda) is recalling certain 2005-2010 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured June 23, 2004, through September 4, 2010. In the affected vehicles, the fuel pump strainer cover may deteriorate allowing fuel to leak out.
A fuel leak increases the risk of a fire.
Parts to permanently repair the affected vehicles are not currently available. Honda will notify owners with an interim letter during May 2014. A second notice was mailed to owners October 6, 2014 when the remedy became available. Any vehicles that are currently leaking from the fuel pump cover will get a replacement, original cover. All vehicles, including those receiving the interim repair, will get an improved cover when they are available. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. The recall numbers associated with this campaign are JD9 (inspection and/or preliminary part replacement) and JE0 (final parts replacement).
Campaign 14V112000 on NHTSA.gov
Electrical system, softwareNov 1, 2013
American Honda Motor Company (Honda) is recalling certain model year 2007-2008 Honda Odyssey vehicles manufactured August 8, 2006, through September 8, 2008. Due to a combination of system components and software, the Vehicle Safety Assist System (VSA) may apply the brakes unexpectedly.
The vehicle may suddenly and unexpectedly brake hard, and without illuminating the brake lights, increasing the risk of a crash from behind.
Parts to remedy these vehicles will not be available until the spring of 2014. Honda will send owners an interim letter notifying them of the issue and instruct them how to prevent unintended braking. A second notification will be sent when the parts become available. Interim notification was mailed in December 2013. The recall began on April 29, 2014. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009 or visit their website at www.recalls.honda.com. Honda's recall number is JC5.
Campaign 13V500000 on NHTSA.gov
Structure, body, hatchback/liftgateFeb 16, 2012
HONDA IS RECALLING CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2008-2009 ODYSSEY VEHICLES, THE GAS-FILLED STRUTS THAT HELP TO RAISE AND SUPPORT THE LIFTGATE OF VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH A POWER LIFTGATE SYSTEM MAY BE PRONE TO EARLY LIFE FAILURES DUE TO A MANUFACTURING FLAW. THE FLAW CAN RESULT IN A LEAK OF THE PRESSURIZED GAS, LEADING TO REDUCED STRUT PERFORMANCE.
STRUTS WITH DIMINISHED PERFORMANCE CAN LEAD TO UNEXPECTED CLOSURE, INCREASING THE RISK OF PERSONAL INJURY.
HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNERS, AND DEALERS WILL REPLACE BOTH POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MARCH 12, 2012. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA CUSTOMER SERVICE AT 1-800-999-1009.
Campaign 12V062000 on NHTSA.gov
Service brakes, airMar 16, 2010
HONDA HAS NOTIFIED NHTSA OF A DEFECT IN CERTAIN MODEL YEAR 2007 AND 2008 ODYSSEY AND ELEMENT PASSENGER VEHICLES MANUFACTURED BETWEEN JULY 28, 2006 AND AUGUST 21, 2008. AIR CAN ENTER THE VSA MODULAR PUMP DURING AN INITIAL SELF-CHECK PROCESS THAT OCCURS SHORTLY AFTER EACH TIME THE ENGINE IS STARTED. IT IS POSSIBLE FOR ENOUGH AIR TO ENTER THE SYSTEM TO RESULT IN A BRAKE PEDAL THAT FEELS SOFT OR LOWER TO THE FLOOR.
IF THE OWNER DOES NOT HAVE ANY BRAKE SERVICE OR MAINTENANCE PERFORMED OVER A PERIOD OF MONTHS OR YEARS, THE SYSTEM CAN CONTINUE TO ACCUMULATE ENOUGH AIR TO AFFECT BRAKING PERFORMANCE, INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
HONDA WILL NOTIFY OWNER AND HONDA DEALERS WILL REPAIR THE VSA MODULATOR BY REMOVING ANY EXISTING AIR IN THE BRAKE SYSTEM THEN APPLY SEALANT AND CAPS TO PREVENT AIR FROM ENTERING THE BRAKE SYSTEM FREE OF CHARGE. THE SAFETY RECALL BEGAN ON MAY 3, 2010. OWNERS MAY CONTACT HONDA AT 1-800-999-1009.
Campaign 10V098000 on NHTSA.gov
Representative owner complaints: structure
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Structure, May 11, 2012
MY 4 YEAR OLD SON WAS SITTING IN HIS CAR SEAT WITH HIS HAD ON THE SIDE OF THE BACK PANEL WHEN THE SLIDING ELECTRIC DOOR CLOSED ON HIS HAND. THE DOOR COMPLETELY CLOSED ON HIS HAND AND DID NOT REOPEN EASILY. A LOT OF FORCE WAS USED TO RE-OPEN THE DOOR. THE SENSOR FOR THE DOOR DID NOT WORK. *TR
Structure, May 1, 2012
THE STRUTS ON MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY EX-L FAILED THIS MORNING. IT IS NOT COVERED BY THE CURRENT RECALL FROM FEB 16, 2012, SINCE MY ODYSSEY DOES NOT HAVE A POWER LIFTGATE. PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO USE THE LIFTGATE (POWERED OR NOT), AND IT POSES A BIG RISK TO THE PERSON UNDER THE LIFTGATE. WHILE SUPPORTING THE LIFTGATE WITH MY HEAD, I HAD TO PULL OUT MY BICYCLE FROM THE VEHICLE WITH BOTH HANDS. AS I MOVED, THE LIFTGATE WOULD HURT ME SINCE IT WAS ONLY BEING KEPT OPEN BY MY BODY. AS SOON AS I MOVED OUT, IT CLOSED WITH A BIG BANG. THIS IS A MAJOR RISK ESPECIALLY TO THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF THE USERS OF THE ODYSSEY: MOMS WITH YOUNG CHILDREN. THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM AS EVIDENCED BY THIS FORUM THREAD (11 PAGES LONG): HTTP://WWW.ODYCLUB.COM/FORUMS/52-2005-2010-ODYSSEY/40133-TAILGATE-GAS-STRUT-PROBLEMS.HTML RELATED RECALL: VEHICLE MAKE / MODEL: HONDA / ODYSSEY MODEL YEAR(S): 2008-2009 MANUFACTURER: HONDA (AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO.) MFR'S REPORT DATE: FEB 16, 2012 NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER: 12V062000 NHTSA ACTION NUMBER: PE11034 COMPONENT: STRUCTURE:BODY:HATCHBACK/LIFTGATE:SUPPORT DEVICE *JS
Structure, Apr 18, 2012
TL* THE CONTACT OWN A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT RECEIVED THE RECALL NOTICE ASSOCIATED WITH NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 12V062000 (STRUCTURE:BODY:HATCHBACK/LIFTGATE:SUPPORT DEVICE). THE CONTACT FELT THAT THE REPAIRS WERE NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE FAILED PARTS. THE CONTACT HAD NOT EXPERIENCED A FAILURE OR NOTIFIED THE MANUFACTURER. THE VIN WAS NOT AVAILABLE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 24,000.
Structure, Apr 5, 2012
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT GAS FILLED STRUTS ON THE REAR LIFT GATE FAILED AND THE LIFT GATE WOULD NOT REMAIN OPEN. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER AND THE CONTACT WAS INFORMED THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL ASSOCIATED WITH NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 12V062000 (STRUCTURE: BODY: HATCHBACK/LIFTGATE). THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT NOTIFIED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 55,000.
Structure, Mar 29, 2012
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE REAR LIFT GATE WOULD NOT REMAIN UPRIGHT WHEN OPENED AND THE DOOR WOULD ABRUPTLY SLAM SHUT. THE CONTACT CALLED THE MANUFACTURER REGARDING NHTSA CAMPAIGN I.D. NUMBER: 12V062000 (STRUCTURE:BODY:HATCHBACK/LIFTGATE) AND THE MANUFACTURER INFORMED THE CONTACT THAT THE VEHICLE WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RECALL. THE CONTACT DID NOT TAKE THE VEHICLE TO A DEALER FOR A DIAGNOSTIC TEST OR REPAIRS. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 59,100.
Structure, Mar 5, 2012
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE REAR LIFTGATE ABRUPTLY CLOSED WHILE IN AN UPRIGHT POSITION, WITHOUT RESISTANCE. THE CONTACT REFERENCED NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID NUMBER 12V062000 (: STRUCTURE: BODY: HATCHBACK/LIFTGATE) BUT WAS ADVISED BY THE MANUFACTURER THAT THE VIN WAS INELIGIBLE FOR REPAIRS UNDER THE RECALL CAMPAIGN. THE CONTACT PLANNED TO HAVE THE VEHICLE REPAIRED AT HER EXPENSE. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 69,000.
Structure, Feb 24, 2012
ON APPROXIMATELY NOVEMBER 5, 2011 MY HUSBAND WENT OUT TO OUR 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY TO RETRIEVE SOME ITEMS. HE OPENED THE REAR LIFTGATE AS USUAL AND WHILE HE WAS RETRIEVING THE BAGS THE REAR DOOR GAVE WAY FALLING ONTO HIS BACK. THE STRUTS THAT HOLD THE DOOR UP FAILED AND CAN NO LONGER SUPPORT THE WEIGHT OF THE DOOR. NOT ONLY IS IT DIFFICULT TO LIFT THE DOOR, BUT MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE SINCE BEEN USING A PIECE OF WOOD TO HOLD UP THE DOOR WHEN NEEDED. I UNDERSTAND THERE IS A RECALL OF CERTAIN 2008-2009 HONDA ODYSSEY REAR LIFTGATE STRUTS FOR THIS EXACT SAME PROBLEM( NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID# 12V062000). HOWEVER, I WAS TOLD BY THE STAFF AND MANAGER AT PHILLIPSBURG EASTON HONDA THAT THIS RECALL DOES NOT APPLY TO MY VEHICLE EVENTHOUGH IT HAS THE SAME EXACT PROBLEM LISTED IN THE RECALL. *TR
Structure, Feb 22, 2012
I SAW THAT HONDA HAS RECALLED 2008- EARLY 2009 MODEL YEAR HONDA ODYSSEY EX-LAND TOURING MODELS POWER LIFTGATE GAS STRUTS I HAVE A NON-POWER LIFT GATE VERSION OF THIS VEHICLE AND THE GAS STRUTS HAVE FAILED. I'VE BUMPED MY HEAD ON THE TAILGATE MULTIPLE TIMES. *TR
Structure, Nov 25, 2011
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE PARKED, BOTH REAR SLIDING DOORS EMITTED A GRINDING NOISE WHILE CLOSING. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER FOR DIAGNOSTIC. THE TECHNICIAN STATED THAT THE CENTER SLIDING ROLLERS ON EACH SLIDING DOOR WOULD HAVE TO BE REPLACED OR THERE COULD BE BODY DAMAGE TO THE VEHICLE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE APPROXIMATE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 95,000.
Structure, Sep 8, 2011
LIFT-GATE STRUTS FAILURE. *TR
Structure, Jun 28, 2011
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE RIGHT AUTOMATIC PASSENGER SIDE SLIDING DOOR WOULDN'T CLOSE AUTOMATICALLY. THE VEHICLE WAS INSPECTED BY AN INDEPENDENT MECHANIC WHO ADVISED HER THAT THEY HAD TO CUT THE WIRE IN ORDER FOR IT TO CLOSE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED; HOWEVER, SHE HAD TO OPEN AND CLOSE IT MANUALLY. THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOTIFIED AND OFFERED NO ASSISTANCE. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 37,000. THE VIN WAS UNAVAILABLE.
Structure, Jun 21, 2011
TL* THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT THE TAILGATE DOOR CLOSED ON HIM UNEXPECTEDLY. THE CONTACT WAS NOT INJURED. THE DEALER WAS CONTACTED TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT AND THE MANUFACTURER WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF THE FAILURE. THE VEHICLE WAS NOT REPAIRED. THE FAILURE AND CURRENT MILEAGE WAS 41,000.
Structure, Mar 16, 2011
INTERIOR OF VEHICLE COMPARTMENT LEAVES PASSENGERS (FOUR) LEAVING FEELING WEAK, WOOZY, UNABLE TO STAY ALERT, FEELING AS IF WE ARE GOING TO PASS OUT DURING VEHILCE OPERATION. WINDOWS MUST BE ROLLED DOWN FOR FRESH OXYGEN. VEHICLE UNDER WARRANTY TAKEN TO LOCAL LYNNWOOD WASHINGTON HONDA DEALER FOR INSPECTION, REPAIR. REQUESTED MAINTENANCE DIRECTOR CONTACT NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL HONDA MAINTENANCE SUPERVISORY PERSONNEL FOR ADVICE ON VEHICLE EQUIPMENT TO CHECK, REPAIR, REPLACE, CORRECT OR FIX. INITIALLY, HONDA DEALER HAS ADVISED US, HE HAS NO IDEA WHY THERE IS GAS LEAK, CARBON MONOXIDE LEAK OR OTHER PRODUCTS LEAKING INTO COMPARTMENT. HONDA TSBS AND NATIONAL HIGHWAY SAFETY ADMINISTRATION WEBSITE REFLECTS MULTIPLE OTHER CASES OF SIMILAR REPORTS. WE FULLY EXPECT OUR LOCAL HONDA DEALERSHIP TO ADDRESS OUR CONCERNS AND APPROPRIATELY TAKE REMEDIATIVE STEPS TO FIX, REPAIR VEHICLE TO OUR SATISFACTION. VEHICLE IS CURRENTLY UNSAFE TO DRIVE WITH THIS PROBLEM. *TR
Structure, Latches/locks/linkages, Aug 30, 2010
2008 HONDA ODYSSEY REAR TAILGATE STRUTS FAILED AND THE REAR DOOR FREE FALLS SHUT. THE CAR IS ONLY 28 MONTHS OLD. *TR
Structure, Aug 16, 2010
REPORT OF SAFETY HAZARD- ON MY FIRST DRIVE AFTER PURCHASING MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY I WAS ON AN INTERSTATE AND THE SUN WAS AT AN ANGLE WHICH ILLUMINATED THE LIGHT COLORED TRIM OF THE DASH PANEL TO THE LEFT OF THE STEERING WHEEL. THIS LIGHT COLORED PANEL PRODUCED A REFLECTION IN THE SHAPE OF THE PANEL WHICH COVERED MY LEFT REARVIEW MIRROR SUCH THAT PASSING VEHICLES WERE OBSCURED . I COULD NOT DEPEND UPON THE DRIVERS SIDE MIRROR DUE TO THIS. IT RECURRED SO OFTEN I HAD TO PAINT THE DASH TRIM BLACK ON THAT PANEL WHICH HOUSES THE AUTOMATIC DOOR SWITCHES. *TR
Power train, Electrical system, Structure, Aug 9, 2010
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT WAS DRIVING APPROXIMATELY 35-40 MPH, WHEN THE VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST SYSTEM ACTIVATION INDICATOR AND VEHICLE STABILITY ASSIST SYSTEM INDICATOR ILLUMINATED ON THE INSTRUMENT PANEL. THE FAILURE OCCURRED INTERMITTENTLY. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO AN AUTHORIZED DEALER ON TWO OCCASIONS WHERE THE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEM CODE WAS RESET. THE VEHICLE WAS TAKEN TO THE DEALER ON A THIRD OCCASION AND THE YAW SENSOR WAS REPLACED. THE FAILURE CONTINUED AFTER THE REPAIRS WERE PERFORMED. THE CONTACT WAS IN THE PROCESS OF TAKING THE VEHICLE BACK TO THE DEALER TO BE REPAIRED. IN ADDITION, THE PASSENGER SIDE AUTOMATIC DOOR FAILED TO RELEASE. THE VEHICLE WAS REPAIRED FOR THE MALFUNCTION. ALSO, THE FRONT PASSENGER SIDE AXLE AND STRUTS WERE REPLACED. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS 31,253.
Structure, Jul 10, 2010
PASSENGER DOORS ON 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY DON'T LOCK IN PLACE WHEN THEY ARE OPEN...THIS ALMOST CAUSE HARM TO MY FOUR SMALL CHILDREN WITH THEIR HANDS AND HEADS GETTING SHUT IN THE DOOR...TOOK THIS BACK TO THE DEALERSHIP THEY SEEMED TO NOT FIND THE PROBLEM WHEN WE TOOK IT TO THEM... *TR
Structure, Apr 13, 2010
MY NIECE, AGE 5, REACHED FOR HER SEATBELT AS THE DOOR WAS CLOSING AND HER HAND WAS CRUSHED BETWEEN THE DOOR AND THE VEHICLE. THERE ARE SENSORS ON THE FRONT SIDE OF THE DOOR, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THERE ARE NO SENSORS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE DOOR (WHERE THE SEATBELT IS LOCATED). *TR
Structure, Jan 4, 2010
TL*THE CONTACT OWNS A 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY. THE CONTACT STATED THAT WHILE REMOVING ITEMS FROM THE VEHICLE THE SLIDING DOOR BEGAN TO CLOSE ON ITS OWN, CLOSING HER IN THE DOOR. SHE SUFFERED CONTUSIONS AS A RESULT OF THE FAILURE. SHE TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALER BUT THE DEALER COULD NOT DUPLICATE THE FAILURE. SHE HAS NOT CONTACTED THE MANUFACTURER. THE VEHICLE HAS NOT BEEN REPAIRED. THE CURRENT MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 56,800. THE FAILURE MILEAGE WAS APPROXIMATELY 56,000.
Structure, Nov 10, 2009
TAILGATE LIFT GATE HYDRAULIC FAILURE ON THE HONDA ODYSSEY - FAILURE COULD CAUSE SIGNIFICANT INJURIES. WAS TOLD BY LOCAL DEALERSHIP THAT IT IS A "COMMON PROBLEM" IN BOTH OLD AND NEW ODYSSEYS. MINE FAILED AT MAYBE 20K MILES (I AM GUESSING) AND THE CAR IS 1.5 YRS OLD. KNOW OF ANOTHER PERSON WHO'S FAILED AT 20K TOO. *TR
Structure, Nov 5, 2009
I HAVE A SAFETY CONCERN FOR MY 2008 HONDA ODYSSEY LX. THE SLIDING DOORS ARE VERY HARD TO OPEN MANUALLY (FROM THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE) WHEN UNLOCKED. IN AN EMERGENCY SITUATION, A CHILD OR SENIOR WOULD BE TRAPPED INSIDE THE VEHICLE BECAUSE HE/SHE WOULD NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO OPEN THE SLIDING DOOR. *TR
Service brakes, Hydraulic, Visibility, Structure, Oct 14, 2008
HAVE THREE COMPLAINTS. COMPLAINT ONE: THERE IS EXTREMELY LONG PEDAL TRAVEL FOR BRAKE PEDAL. THIS TRAVEL GIVES THE DRIVER A SENSE OF BRAKE FAILURE, AS THOUGH THE BRAKES DON'T WORK OR WILL NOT STOP VEHICLE. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS AS A COMMON PROBLEM COMPLAINT TWO: WIND NOISE ON THE PASSENGER AND DRIVER PILLAR THAT SEPARATES THE FRONT SEAT AND THE MIDDLE SEAT COMBINATION. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM. COMPLAINT THREE: THERE IS SIGNIFICANT DIRT IN PAINT AND PAINT SHADING WHERE IT DOESN'T MATCH REST OF VEHICLE (PAINT SHADING CAN BE SEEN IF THE SUN SHINES ON THE VEHICLE JUST RIGHT). HONDA HAS OFFERED TO REPAINT AFFECTED PARTS. I FEEL THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM AND THE OWNER SHOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A NEW CAR REPAINTED WITH LESS THAN 1000 MILES. HAS BEEN NOTED IN VEHICLE FORUMS THIS IS A COMMON PROBLEM. *TR
Structure, May 6, 2008
WHEN USING THE AUTOMATIC SLIDING DOOR ON MY 2008 ODYSSEY, THE DOOR'S SENSOR FAILED TO AUTO-REVERSE WHEN MY 2 1/2 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER REACHED HER HAND TOWARDS THE DOOR OF THE VAN FROM THE INSIDE. NOT ONLY WERE HER FINGERS AND UPPER HAND HIT BY THE CLOSING DOOR, BUT THE DOOR FAILED TO OPEN AND REMAINED SHUT ON HER HAND UNTIL I MANUALLY OPENED IT. THIS RESULTED IN AN OBVIOUS INJURY TO HER HAND AND A TRIP TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM. X-RAYS DID NOT REVEAL A BREAK, BUT SHE WILL HAVE TO BE RE-CHECKED WITH AN ORTHOPEDIC, AS IT MAY HAVE DAMAGED THE GROWTH PLATE IN HER FINGER. THE DEALERSHIP WHERE THE CAR WAS PURCHASED CHECKED THE SENSOR AND STATED THAT THERE IS NO OBVIOUS DEFECT. *TR