2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500
Problems, recalls and owner-reported issues
Engine is the leading concern among 1,082 owner complaints filed for this model year. This is the 3rd highest complaint count among 19 Silverado 1500 model years with reports.
Of the 2019 reports, 27 involved a crash and 8 involved a fire. 15 people were injured.
What owners report most often
Recalls and investigations
Tires, temporary/emergency spare tireDec 16, 2021
General Motors (GM) is recalling certain 2019-2021 GMC Sierra 1500 and Silverado 1500 vehicles equipped with certain accessory road tires and a 17" spare tire. The 17" spare tire provided with the vehicle is not compatible for use with the accessory wheels, which can cause the anti-lock brake system (ABS) to not function properly under certain conditions.
An ABS system that does not function properly can increase the risk of a crash.
Dealers will provide a new 17" spare tire and wheel assembly that is compatible with the accessory wheels, free of charge. Dealers will also apply a new spare tire information label, and provide owners with an owner's manual insert clarifying which spare tire to use with the accessory road tires and with the 17" original tires. Owner notification letters were mailed February 7, 2022. Owners may contact GM customer service at 1-800-462-8782 or GMC customer service at 1-800-462-8782. GM's number for this recall is N212346510.
Campaign 21V985000 on NHTSA.gov
TiresJun 3, 2021
General Motors, LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 vehicles. The affected tires were cured for too long during production.
Over cured tires may develop a break in the sidewall resulting in sudden air loss or a belt edge separation which could lead to a tread/belt loss. Either condition can cause a loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash.
Dealers inspect and replace the tires as necessary, free of charge, free of charge. Owner notification letters were mailed on June 25, 2021. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 and GMC customer service at 1-800-462-8782. GM's number for this recall is N212336230.
Campaign 21V423000 on NHTSA.gov
TiresFeb 25, 2021
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2020 Buick Enclave, Cadillac XT4, XT5, Escalade, Escalade ESV, Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe, Traverse, GMC Yukon, Yukon XL, 2018-2021 Chevrolet Express, GMC Savana, 2019-2020 Chevrolet Blazer, Silverado 1500, GMC Acadia, Sierra 1500, and certain Continental tires sold to the aftermarket for various model year 2018-2021 vehicles. The affected tires were cured for too long during production.
Over cured tires may develop a break in the sidewall resulting in sudden air loss or a belt edge separation which could lead to a tread/belt loss. Either condition can cause a loss of vehicle control, increasing the risk of a crash.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will inspect the tires, replacing them as necessary, free of charge. The recall began March 22, 2021. Owners may contact GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267, Buick customer service at 1-866-608-8080, Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 or Cadillac customer service at 1-800-458-8006. GM's number for this recall is N212329050.
Campaign 21V115000 on NHTSA.gov
Seat beltsDec 17, 2020
General Motors, LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019-2021 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500, 2021 Chevrolet Suburban and Tahoe and GMC Yukon XL and 2020-2021 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 and 3500 and GMC Sierra 2500 and 3500 vehicles. The seat belt brackets may not be secured to the seat frame in the front-row center seating position.
If a seat-belt bracket is not secured, the seat belt may not properly restrain an occupant in the front-row center seat position, increasing the risk of injury in a crash.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will inspect left-side and right-side front-row center seat-belt bracket attachments and reassemble it correctly as necessary, free of charge. The recall began January 26, 2021. Owners may contact GMC customer service at 1-800-462-8782, Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020. GM's number for this recall is N202314670.
Campaign 20V792000 on NHTSA.gov
Power train, driveline, driveshaftOct 22, 2020
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019-2020 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 and 2020 Chevrolet Silverado 2500 trucks. One of the driveshaft joints may not have been properly welded, causing the driveshaft to separate while the vehicle is moving.
If the driveshaft separates, there may be a loss of propulsion, increasing the risk of crash.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will replace the driveshaft, free of charge. The recall is expected to begin December 2020. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 or GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267. GM's number for this recall is N202314870.
Campaign 20V650000 on NHTSA.gov
Service brakes, hydraulic, power assistJan 30, 2020
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 vehicles. These vehicles received updated software for the Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM). This software has an error, and as a result, the vehicle's electronic brake assist may be disabled. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 126, "Electronic Stability Control" and 135, "Light Vehicle Brake Systems."
A loss of electronic brake assist can increase the risk of a crash.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will reprogram the EBCM, free of charge. The recall began February 24, 2020. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 or GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267. GM's number for this recall is N192268091.
Campaign 20V055000 on NHTSA.gov
Service brakes, hydraulic, antilock/traction control/electronic limited slip, abs warning lightDec 12, 2019
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500, Cadillac CT6, and GMC Sierra 1500 vehicles. Due to an Electronic Brake Control Module (EBCM) software error, the vehicle's Electronic Stability Control (ESC) and Antilock Brake System (ABS) may become disabled. Furthermore, if this specific error occurs, the vehicle's diagnostics will not illuminate the instrument cluster ESC and ABS malfunction warning lights. As such, these vehicles fail to comply with the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard (FMVSS) number 126, "Electronic Stability Control" and 135, "Light Vehicle Brake Systems."
If the driver operates the vehicle unaware that ESC and ABS are not functioning, there is an increased risk of a crash.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will reprogram the EBCM, free of charge. The recall began February 4, 2020. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020, Cadillac customer service at 1-800-333-4223, or GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267. GM's number for this recall is N192268090.
Campaign 19V889000 on NHTSA.gov
Electrical system, 12v/24v/48v battery, cablesDec 12, 2019
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019-2020 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500 trucks. The battery positive (B+) cable rings may have been manufactured with excessive glue, potentially causing an intermittent electrical connection between the B+ cable and alternator.
An intermittent electrical connection between the B+ battery cable and the alternator could cause the vehicle to stall, increasing the risk of a crash. The intermittent connection could also lead to electrical arcing, which could generate sufficient heat to damage surrounding material, increasing the risk of a fire.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will inspect for the presence of glue or other contamination at the B+ cable attachment to the alternator and clean the connection and reattach the B+ cable connection, as necessary. If arcing has damaged the cable, nut, or alternator, the dealer will replace the damaged components. All services will be performed free of charge. GM issued owners an interim notification on February 4, 2020. GM issued second notice and the recall began March 9, 2019. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 or GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267. GM's number for this recall is N192273510.
Campaign 19V888000 on NHTSA.gov
Seat belts, pretensionerNov 14, 2019
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019-2020 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 and GMC Sierra 1500, and 2020 Silverado 2500, Silverado 3500, Sierra 2500, and Sierra 3500 vehicles equipped with carpet floor covering. When the front seat belt pretensioners deploy, hot gas may vent through an opening in the pretensioner bracket, possibly igniting the carpet.
A vehicle fire could result if materials ignite inside the vehicle.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will close off the opening in the pretensioner bracket, free of charge. The recall began December 13, 2019. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 or GMC customer service at 1-888-988-7267. GM's number for this recall is N192270600.
Campaign 19V814000 on NHTSA.gov
Air bags, frontal, passenger side, inflator moduleDec 6, 2018
General Motors LLC (GM) is recalling certain 2019 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Crew Cab and GMC Sierra 1500 Crew Cab vehicles. The passenger-side frontal air bag module may have been damaged during assembly, possibly resulting in the air bag not inflating properly in the event of a crash.
In the event of a crash, an air bag that does not inflate properly can increase the risk of injury.
GM will notify owners, and dealers will replace the passenger side air bag module, free of charge. The recall began on December 18, 2018. Owners may contact Chevrolet customer service at 1-800-222-1020 and GMC customer service at 1-800-462-8782. GM's number for this recall is N182198820.
Campaign 18V868000 on NHTSA.gov
Representative owner complaints: other or unspecified
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Other or unspecified, Dec 20, 2022
In November of 2021, There was a water leak found inside the truck, on the passenger side rear cab. Chevy repaired in accordance with GM bulletin # 18-na-383. After six month, leak came back. They replaced the rear window, in accordance with GM bulletin # 18-na-383. All work was done under warranty. Now after a month since last repair, the leak is back and worse then it was. Returned to Chevy dealer and they want to replace both parts again. This time not under warranty. Further research of the internet, yielded thousands of people over many years having the same issue.
Other or unspecified, Nov 16, 2022
Changed my oil and filter and notice a oil leak from under my radiator area. Investigated and found that the oil cooler lines was leaking from crimp joints. Contacted GM and local dealer and they would not make repairs without charging me for the repair and service, told me that my vehicle was not included in the Customer Satisfaction Program Number N212326940 and that my truck was out of warranty at 36000 miles. Current miles 38700, I believe that this was leaking at or around 35000 miles but was in between oil changes. Didn't find it until I did a oil change.
Steering, Other or unspecified, Nov 7, 2022
Parked in parking on an attempt to crank and leave the power steering would not turn the vehicle and a message appeared stating power steering needs immediate attention and the anti skid light appeared as well as abs message. These messages may not be exact but my concern is if I attempt to drive and the power assist goes out and I cannot control my vehicle. I will say that I went back to where the vehicle was left parked attempt to drive after sitting 1-2 hours and the messages were gone and the power steering had returned.
Other or unspecified, Nov 3, 2022
This truck has about 35,000 miles on it and the frame is rusted severely. Doesn’t feel safe to drive. Have to because it’s my only vehicle.
Other or unspecified, Oct 15, 2022
the transmission at the time of putting the speed jumps by itself, and the stereo turns off completely by itself
Electrical system, Other or unspecified, Jul 14, 2022
Started truck had several warnings for Service ESC, Traction control, service 4wheel drive and parking brake would not release
Other or unspecified, Jun 11, 2022
Water leak on rear windshield creating damage on floor and headliner my safety is at risk because there are electrical cables on top of the head liner that can create a fire if get wet also the bad smell i notify chevrolet gm and the dealership all the silverado 2019 with the rear sliding window leak water and this is a factory problem they should recall my warranty expired last month they dont want to fix the issue and i have to spend money and time to fix something they build wrong
Other or unspecified, Feb 6, 2022
1) Temperature outside 25 degrees F 2) Used Remote Start to warm up the truck 3) Truck ran for 5-8 mins 4) After getting in the truck when I closed the driver side door the full rear window glass completely shattered and blew out. My understanding is that this was an issue in the past as per TSB 14815B and seems to be a known issue that others have experienced as I saw when researching the safety issue on the internet.
Power train, Wheels, Other or unspecified, Dec 27, 2021
1st Time I was idling for 30+ minutes, truck was also making strange knocking noises, pulled on to a major highway and rear end locked up, cars were slamming on brakes, almost got killed. Took to shop left for 2 weeks, they said they could find no issues. I assumed they fixed problem, because there was no knocking any more. 3 weeks later, was idling for about 45minutes, pulled into traffic, dark, raining, rear en locked up. Almost got killed a second time. Took in for service and left truck. This needs to be investigated before someone gets killed!
Electrical system, Exterior lighting, Other or unspecified, Sep 13, 2021
The infotainment system on the 2019 Chevy Silverado fails when a passenger is using Carplay. While using Carplay for hands-free operation of a cellular device and or navigation the system will reboot continuously. Just prior to the system failures to begin the turn signals will begin to operate sporadically. They will either stay on solid, off, or blink at an uneven interval. These system reboots create a safety issue as this forces the driver to take their eyes off of the road and physically disconnect and reconnect the cellular device. By having to take my eyes off of the road to deal with the system rebooting this takes attention away and creates a safety issue for myself and all others on the road. One incident I had to slam on the brakes after looking back up and seeing that traffic had come to a sudden stop. The unit has been replaced by the dealership one time thus far and the BCM computer has been replaced once as well. This has not resolved the issues. This is also not limited to my specific vehicle. There are hundreds of other owners reporting the same issues. The problem was reproduced by one technician at the dealership but has not been reproduced by them since. (They all have Android devices minus the one tech. This is a Carplay issue.) This has occurred more than 100 separate times on this vehicle beginning in November of 2019.
Other or unspecified, Service brakes, Engine, Sep 5, 2021
Started to drive my truck this morning and it was driving very rough. Dashboard warning lights came on; SERVICE PARKING BRAKE, SERVICE ESC, CHECK ENGINE LIGHT, STABILITY CONTROL LIGHT, PARKING BRAKE ON INDICATOR. None of this was happening yesterday. It just happened this morning. This truck only has 7,100 miles on it.
Other or unspecified, Aug 25, 2021
Clarity of the back up camera is very cloudy or not clear at all
Other or unspecified, Jun 23, 2021
Vehicle was parked and not running. I got into the vehicle and started it. I proceeded to put the vehicle in reverse and backed my truck up out of a parking spot. I then put the vehicle in drive. The vehicle started to go in reverse when I began to accelerate. I then put the vehicle back in park and then back into drive. The truck again started to go in reverse when in the drive position and I tried to accelerate and go forward. At this point the truck's check engine light came on. I put the truck in park, turned the vehicle off for a moment. I then turned the truck back on and again shifted it to drive and the truck went forward. We took the vehicle into the shop to have the codes run but a braking system code was the only thing that came up. The dealership said they will begin looking into it and the vehicle will be serviced soon. Safety Concern: That if we were in a parking lot and placed our vehicle in drive and it actually goes in reverse, we could have harmed someone behind us or damaged someone's vehicle/home/etc. I also worry there may be other issues that arise that could pose a safety concern since we don't really know what is going on.
Other or unspecified, Apr 7, 2021
START-STOP SYSTEM NOT WORKING,
Other or unspecified, Jan 26, 2021
PURCHASED THIS VEHICLE IN NOV OF 2019. THE REARVIEW CAMERA DOES NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY AND GM DOES NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY CAMERA. THEY KEEP ON STATING THEY HAVEN'T FOUND A FIX AND ALWAYS LEAVE ME WITH NO NEW INFORMATION. I'VE OPENED TICKETS WITH THEM AND NOTHING. WAS READING ONLINE TODAY AND THEY STATE THAT THE ISSUE ONLY HAPPENS ON LOWER TRIM MODELS. MINE IS A CUSTOM TRIM MODEL. I WOULD LIKE THIS FIXED AS IT IS DANGEROUS, GOING REVERSE AND THE CAMERA GLITCHES OUT OR TURNS BLACK.
Other or unspecified, Jan 26, 2021
BACKUP CAMERA IS SO BRIGHT AT NIGHT THAT I CAN NOT SEE MY MIRRORS TO USE THEM. BACKUP CAMERA GETS LINES ON THE SCREEN. THIS HAPPENS WHERE MOVING OR SITTING STILL.
Other or unspecified, Nov 30, 2020
CAMERA IS REALLY FUZZY NOT CLEAR AND HORIZONTAL LINES RUN THROUGH IT IT MAKES IT VERY HARD TO SEE AT NIGHT WHEN YOU ARE BACKING UP
Other or unspecified, Sep 30, 2020
WHEN I HIT THE BRAKES WHILE MOVING IN REVERSE, MY BACKUP CAMERA GLITCHES OR GIVES AN ERROR TO SERVICE. THIS COULD PREVENT ME FROM SEEING SOMETHING BEHIND ME WHILE BACKING UP. THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM SINCE PURCHASING. CHEVY DEALER LOOKED AT IT BUT WAS UNABLE TO FIX.
Wheels, Other or unspecified, Service brakes, Aug 31, 2020
PULLED OUT OF A CONSTRUCTION SITE AFTER A WORK DAY AND THE WHEELS ON MY TRUCK LOCKED UP RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD. IF I WAS PULLING INTO A HIGHWAY, I WOULD NOT BE WRITING THIS RIGHT NOW. THE TRUCK WAS IDLING FOR ABOUT 2 HOURS BEFORE I PULLED OUT INTO TRAFFIC. THE WAY THE WHEELS STOPPED, IT FELT LIKE THE PARKING BRAKE IS ENGAGING WHEN I DRIVE. MAYBE THIS IS SOME KIND OF LIMP MODE TO PREVENT DAMAGE. IF THAT IS THE CASE, IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS FAIL-SAFE TO IMPLEMENT ON A VEHICLE THAT PEOPLE DEPEND ON FOR WORK. I DO NOT THINK IT IS A COINCIDENCE THAT THIS IS THE FIRST SILVERADO MODEL WITH AN ELECTRONIC PARKING BRAKE. OH YAH, AND THIS JUST COINCIDENTALLY HAPPENED 1000 MILES AFTER MY BUMPER-TO-BUMPER WARRANTY EXPIRED. ALSO, GM CUSTOMER SERVICE IS JUST A CALL CENTER IN INDIA. DON'T BOTHER CALLING THEM.
Other or unspecified, Jul 22, 2020
FORWARD AUTOMATIC BRAKING SYSTEM HAS NOT EVER WORKED SINCE I PURCHASED THE TRUCK. I WAS TOLD THAT CHEVROLET WAS AWARE OF THIS AND WAS GOING TO ISSUE A RECALL. I DID RECEIVE A RECALL NOTICE #N192275630. TOKE IT TO THE DEALER AND THEY PERFORMED THIS RECALL AND 4 OTHER RECALLS AND ONE SERVICE BULLETIN. AFTER RECEIVING THE TRUCK BACK FROM THE DEALER I HAVE HAD SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE THE FORWARD COLLISION ALERT SYSTEM HAS WARNED ME BUT STILL NO AUTOMATIC BRAKING FUNCTION. CONTACTED DEALER AND TOOK IT BACK TO THEM THEY RETESTED THE SYSTEM WITH NO ERRORS RECORDED. THEY SAID THEY DON'T NOW WHAT TO DO SINCE THE RECALL INVOLVED A SOFTWARE UPDATE ONLY AND THEY CAN'T TEST THE SOFTWARE OTHER THAN TO CONFIRM THAT IT DID GET UPDATED. CONTACTED CHEVY CUSTOMER CARE AND WAS TOLD THAT ONLY WAY TO CONFIRM THE SYSTEM WAS WORKING WAS TO CRASH THE TRUCK "THAT'S THEIR WORDS". I AM AN AUTOMOTIVE ENGINEER AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE. I KNOW THE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING SINCE THE WARNING SYSTEM IS WORKING BUT NOT APPLYING THE BRAKES. IT APPEARS THE SOFTWARE UPDATE DID NOT WORK ON MY TRUCK.
Structure, Other or unspecified, Service brakes, Jun 29, 2020, crash
06/26/2020 I WAS INVOLVED IN AN ACCIDENT WHERE MY BRAKES FAILED. I HAVE HAD ALL PREVIOUS RECALLS, AND ONE OF THE RECALLS MADE THE BRAKE FAILURE WORSE THAN THE ORIGIONAL BRAKE RECALLS. I WAS FOLLOWING AT A SAFE DISTANCE WHEN THE CAR IF FT OF MR STOPPED QUICKLY. I APPLIED HARD BRAKE PRESSURE(EASILY ENOUGH PRESSURE TO PROPERLY STOP) BUT PRESSING HARD THE TRUCK SLOWED DOWN BUT AT FULL HARD PUSH BRAKE PEDAL MY TRUCK A CHEVY SILVERADO 2020 JUST WOULDNT STOP CORRECTLY. THERE IS A CURRENT RECALL FOR THIS ISSUE I'M FINDING OUT NOW THAT IT HAS HAPPENED TO ME. MY TRUCK HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO SHOP BUT I NEED TO KNOW MY OPTIONS AND WHERE TO GO FROM HERE. I'VE ADVISED MY INSURANCE CO OF THIS RECALL DEFECT AND HAVE CONTACTED MY ATTORNEY TO SEEK DAMAGES.
Other or unspecified, Service brakes, Engine, Jun 1, 2020
AFTER PERFORMING THE LATEST RECALLS THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ILLUMINATED WITH A P25A2 CODE. I DID NOT NOTICE ANY CHANGE IN THE VEHICLE HANDLING OR PERFORMANCE. AFTER I TOOK THE VEHICLE TO THE DEALERSHIP FOR SERVICE THEY TOLD ME THAT THEY COULDN'T FIND AN ERROR CODE, ONLY THE P25A2 CODE WHICH IS TO ILLUMINATE THE CHECK ENGINE LIGHT. I BELIEVE IT WAS THE BRAKE SYSTEM THAT TRIGGERED THE LIGHT IF I RECALL WHAT THE SERVICE TECHNICIAN TOLD ME CORRECTLY. ADDITIONALLY, AT IDLE SPEED, ESPECIALLY WHILE TURNING THE STEERING WHEEL THE VEHICLE SEEMS TO LUNG FORWARD AT TIMES CREATING THE RISK OF A POTENTIAL FRONT END COLLISION. *TR
Other or unspecified, Lane departure, Back over prevention, May 26, 2020
WHEN USING THE BACKUP CAMERA AT NIGHT, IT GOES INTO FULL BRIGHTNESS BLINDING MYSELF AND ALL PASSENGERS. I CANNOT USE THE MIRRORS TO BACK UP MY TRAILER BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY OVERWHELMING. I HAVE COVERED IT WITH A T-SHIRT SO THAT I CAN ACTUALLY SEE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY TO TURN IT OFF BUT I CANNOT(LITERALLY TRIED EVERY SHORT OF REMOVING THE FUSE. HAPPENS EVERY TIME I DRIVE SO I AM PUTTING MY PURCHASE DATE. *TR
Power train, Other or unspecified, May 6, 2020
THE TRANSMISSION SHIFTING FROM 1ST TO SECOND GEAR HAS ABOUT A 5 SECOND DELAY AND THEN IS A ROUGH SHIFT INTO 2ND. ONLY HAPPENS WHEN THE VEHICLE IS COLD FROM SITTING FOR A LONG PERIOD LIKE OVER NIGHT. AFTER THE ONE HARD SHIFT IT DOESN'T DO IT THE REST OF THE DAY. DONE IT SINCE PURCHASING IT IN SEPT 2019. IT'S LIKE IT LAGS AFTER YOU WAKE IT UP AND HASN'T HAD ITS COFFEE YET. DOES NOT MATTER IF I BACK DOWN MY DRIVEWAY FIRST AND THEN INTO DRIVE. THE FIRST SHIFT OF 1ST TO 2ND HAS A LAG AND ITS ROUGH INTO 2ND. *TR
Other or unspecified, Mar 15, 2020
REAR BACK UP CAMERA QUIT WORKING. THE CENTER MONITOR READ "SERVICE REAR VIEW CAMERA". TRIED TURNING THE MOTOR OFF AND ON NUMEROUS TIMES BUT STILL WOULD NOT WORK. PARKED THE TRUCK IN THE GARAGE THAT NIGHT AND WHEN I TRIED IT THE NEXT DAY IT WAS WORKING AGAIN. CALLED THE DEALER AND INFORMED THEM BUT WAS TOLD THEY HADN'T HEARD OF THE PROBLEM. HAPPENED IN A PARKING LOT INITIALLY.